The Numptiesgate

Over the last couple of days Ronnie has been very active on twitter and has sparked a lot of reactions after he branded 70% of his fellow snooker professionals “numpties”. He suggested that 70% of the tour is made of no-hopers, which I can only understand as “players who will never win anything of worth”. He admitted that he finds it difficult to play them, and play in qualifiers, so much so that he rather avoids qualifiers and stay home unless there is a financial incentive.

I won’t copy/paste the whole stuff, you can read it here . To be fair there are a lot of other things, including very positive ones, that Ronnie tells us in this impromptu self-induced interview. But of course it’s the “numpties” comments that caught attention. And he got some stick for it of course, but also support from some who feel it’s time to drop political correctness, including fellow pro Mark Williams.

Now here are the facts and my take on the “issue”

Let me first state this: branding fellow pros as numpties was both provocative and  not very nice. The vast majority of the tour players work hard and try their best.

That said, Ronnie also used the word “no-hopers”, and in a previous interviews,  “amateurs”, which is probably closer to what he really means.

Now, frankly, how many of the current pros have a realistic chance to win as much as ONE ranking title in their career? There are currently 32 of them on the tour (source cuetracker) out of 128 – the invitational tour card holders not included, but including guys like Nigel Bond and Anthony Hamilton who are unlikely to win another one (Anthony suffers from recurrent neck injuries).

That’s 75% of the tour who hasn’t won a ranking title. How many of those 75% do you reckon are likely to win one at some point and who? You’d need 7 more to get to 70% of non winners, likely never to win. Me, right now, I can only see a couple of young Chinese (Zhou and Yan), Gilbert, maybe Sam Craigie and Hossein Vafaei … who else?

Even more worrying: if you look at who is challenging for titles, it’s still mainly the class of 92 and guys nearing 35. Last season Selby beat Ronnie for the UK, Higgins for the World, and Ronnie took the Masters, beating Perry, another 40+. This season Robertson beat Ronnie in Hong Kong, Williams won in Thailand, Higgins in India. The only really young player proving himself is Luca Brecel.

So in a way, you could say that Ronnie is right, over 70% of the players have next to no hope to ever achieve much in the game and the ones he faces in qualifiers are nowhere near the standard he used to face for most of his career, when top 16 players were seeded in last 32 in every tournament. Mismatches are not great for anybody: not for the top player who gets no challenge, not for the underdog who gets a bashing, not for the audience who gets no real thrill because there isn’t a real match. Mismatches have also lead to some top pros being demotivated to the point they don’t try as they should or lose focus. Ding’s record in qualifiers was so bad that it became a problem with the Chinese sponsors and led to holding his matches over to the main venue in China.

Another worrying aspect for me is that I don’t see many young ones coming through. Look at last season first time winners: King, Hamilton, Liang Wenbo, and this season, Day. Without condoning what Ronnie said, or at least the way he said it, I believe that Hearn should have the honesty to look at those stats and facts. The flat draw as it is doesn’t really deliver. It has advantages indeed: lower ranked players need to win less matches to reach the television stage, they have the opportunity to play the big boys more often, to get used to the television set-up. But the system is extremely brutal, the rookies meet top 64 players in their first match each and every time, they get beat more often than not and earn very little. Is that really the best way to help them develop? The current state of affairs suggest to me that the answer is no.  I’m not sure that someone like Neil Robertson would have made it in the current system, coming raw and penniless from Oz. The tiered system had its drawbacks, but it also allowed for a more progressive development. Why not have a mix of both systems? Would promoters object? I doubt it. Would it protect top players too much? I don’t think so, not if they get no “points” at all if losing their first match. Quite the opposite, it’s a lot of pressure on them then, coming cold against someone who has already secured some points/money with everything to lose.

Where Ronnie is wrong is that this is no different from what happens in any other sport. What % of pro tennis players do actually win anything significant in their career? Surely not even 25% of them. How many pro football clubs do actually win major cups? Only a few considering how popular football is and how many pro clubs exist around the world. The thing is you can’t build a sport solely around the elite. However, you won’t see Federer, Nadal, Djovovic or Murray asked to play qualifiers on court n° 254 in an obscure club, or Chelsea having to qualify for international major competitions playing FC Zottegem on a communal playground. The structure of the tennis and football tours are , de facto, tiered.

The other day Robertson urged Hearn on twitter to make the tickets for qualifiers free because it felt like playing in a morgue, and Williams insisted that there should be no qualifiers at all. I must say, I agree with them both. And yes, there is more money at the top nowadays, but older players have told me they were having a very decent living as middle ranked players in the 90th early 2000th. No more so.

As often the case with Ronnie’s outbursts, beyond the colourful and sometimes rude wording, there is a real issue here and, actually, Hearn knows it, as his reaction shows.

Here is Hector Nunns reporting on Barry Hearn’s reaction:

Snooker ace Ronnie O’Sullivan under fire for ‘numpties’ comment about fellow pros

RONNIE O’SULLIVAN has been branded disrespectful by snooker supremo Barry Hearn for calling his fellow pros ‘numpties’.

By Hector Nunns /

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And World Snooker chairman Hearn suspects the insult will fire up opponents at the Rocket’s increasingly rare tournament appearances.But he admits that five-time world champion O’Sullivan, 41, is unlikely to be disciplined for his latest outburst.

O’Sullivan justified his absence from this week’s European Masters by saying he: “Couldn’t cope with playing a numpty at Barnsley to qualify. See how many numpties you can spot in Belgium.”

Ironically the Rocket has just confirmed he will play in this month’s English Open in Barnsley, where he will face a lower-ranked opponent.

But Hearn said: “It’s disrespectful to fellow professionals and I wouldn’t want to encourage it, but I’m not sure it’s actionable.

“If he doesn’t rate his fellow professionals’ ability then he has to deal with that when he goes out to play them.

“I can ask players to be respectful, but that’s just common sense. And it is part of the bigger conversation about reducing the size of the tour.“Will it motivate these players Ronnie has called numpties even more? They should all want to beat top players anyway.

“But the great news for them is that it doesn’t matter what Ronnie or anyone else thinks, it’s about what they do on the table.

“In football that would be a comment that the manager would put straight on the dressing room wall, and the players would be lightning and thunder coming out on to the pitch.

“Snooker is not quite that type of game, you have to be in control of your emotions a bit more, but it might motivate a few.

“There is though a bigger picture about where is snooker going, and our plans for it. To be fair to Ronnie, it isn’t just him who thinks the tour should be smaller.

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“There are a few other big names who think that it should be cut from 128 to 64.“I have always thought that was a backwards step. I don’t think the bottom half are a waste of time, because it’s an avenue to changing your life and living the dream.

“If you are a ‘numpty’, as Ronnie so eloquently puts it, you will get beaten. And after a year or two maybe you’ll look in the mirror and get another job. But you had the chance.

“In Ronnie’s ideal world, and this is a slight exaggeration, a tournament would be him and one other person for all the money.”

Another interview with Ronnie

This time by the Yorkshire Post

Nothing really new, but still nice.

Weekend Interview: Cue king Ronnie O’Sullivan at peace on and off table

By Richard Hercock

Saturday 22 July 2017

Ronnie O’Sullivan is widely regarded as the most talented man to ever hold a snooker cue in his mercurial hands. Even before he turned professional in 1992, he was tipped for stardom, the child prodigy banging in his first century break aged 10, and his first maximum 147 at 15.

It was arguably a little slower than the world record five minutes and 20 seconds it took O’Sullivan to clear the table at the 1997 World Championship in Sheffield. But the evidence was clear, emerging from an era when Steve Davis and Stephen Hendry had dominated, this young hopeful from Essex was destined for greatness. Five world titles, seven Masters and five UK Championships – the first came when he was aged just 17 – hardly do his talent service. Just as comfortable playing left-handed as he is right-handed, his rapid playing style and adventure around the table quickly attracted an army of supporters.

While Davis and Hendry grafted for their titles, the genius that is O’Sullivan seemed to breeze along on natural talent in the early years. Off-table issues, dealing with depression, saw O’Sullivan work on his mental approach to snooker as he worked closely with sports psychiatrist Steve Peters. Now, though, O’Sullivan is in a good place in his life, trimming down his hectic schedule on the World Snooker tour and looking forward to life when he finally hangs up his cue. He has written his first novel, the excellent Framed, with a sequel coming out later this year called Double Kiss.

And he is often seen as a pundit on Eurosport, delivering his expert opinion on the game. But what else occupies O’Sullivan’s days, when his waistcoat and dickie bow are hanging in the wardrobe? “I’m into my fitness and running, love a bit of boxing too,” O’Sullivan told The Yorkshire Post. “I like cooking and eating out with friends and when I get real time off some track days are fun too.”

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When writing Framed, O’Sullivan drew on personal experiences, on life growing up in snooker halls. The main character is called Frankie James, who runs a family snooker club in Soho, after his mother disappears when he was 16 and his father is in jail for armed robbery. Set against the backdrop of London gangsters, and the battle to save his younger brother, it is fast-moving and you can almost inhale the smoke with its well-penned narrative. So is writing something he enjoys, and can we expect more books in the future? “Definitely and I have got the second one in the Framed series coming out in November, it’s called Double Kiss. “Framed is all about a snooker player really, its based around me and my childhood.” O’Sullivan’s battles with depression throughout his life are well-documented. Over the years he appears to have lost games to the demons in his head, rather than his opponent sat across the table. He revealed that he spent several days in a London hospital last year, after having a breakdown during the World Championship in Sheffield. That emotional rollercoaster is hard to imagine, but O’Sullivan has learned how to cope with the highs, and the lows. “I love a breakdown,” he joked in an interview with BBC’s Victoria Derbyshire. “I’m so used to dragging myself up from a low. I’ve done it all my life. “Sometimes I know that once I get to the bottom I’m just going to fly up again. “I’ve managed to even myself out. “The low doesn’t bother me, because I’ve been so low I know I can come out of it. I don’t worry so much. “It’s just the chance to respond or what not. “It’s always been the way with me, so I don’t worry about it like some people would.” O’Sullivan returns to Sheffield, the scene of his five world titles, on October 7 for an evening show, called A Sporting Life Story, with Ronnie O’Sullivan. Swapping the Crucible for Bramall Lane, O’Sullivan will recall the highs and lows in his glittering career, with footage on giant screens of some of his magical moments. Then fans will get the chance to hold a Q&A with the Rocket – whose 1993 UK Championship win, aged 17 years and 358 days makes him the youngest player ever to win a ranking tournament – before a meet and greet with guests. “I am really looking forward to the event in Sheffield,” said O’Sullivan. “It’s going to be a great night.” O’Sullivan holds numerous records: the most competitive century breaks with 863, the most ratified maximum breaks in professional competition (13) and for the three fastest competitive maximum breaks, the quickest of which was compiled in five minutes and 20 seconds. So does he think that last one will be bettered? “I don’t know,” he pondered. “Eventually all records get broken so I’m sure it will, but let’s hope it’s not too soon!” Sheffield holds plenty of great memories for O’Sullivan, and is a city he enjoys spending time in. But after 25 years of making the trek up the M1 from Essex, what is his stand-out moment at the Crucible? “Probably 2012, winning with little Ronnie there on the back of a poor season,” he said. O’Sullivan – then 36 – was joined on the main stage by his son, Ronnie Jr, after beating Ali Carter 18-11 in the final. Along the way he had seen off the challenge of Peter Ebdon, Mark Williams and Neil Robertson. “It was the best I’ve played at the world champs for sure.” On that special moment between father and son, O’Sullivan explained at the time: “It was the best. I didn’t think I’d ever get the opportunity to share those moments with him so it was so nice to have him here. “I got a bit emotional before the match was over, it felt like just me and him in the whole arena. “There was just this massive connection between me and him, the best feeling I’ve ever had in my life.” While O’Sullivan will be back in Sheffield in October, he will not be a stranger to Yorkshire. The English Open is being held for the first time in Barnsley in October, before the UK Championship returns to York the following month. Then the big one, the World Championship at the Crucible next April as O’Sullivan looks to add to his five world titles. Davis has six, while Hendry has seven, so can O’Sullivan – he will be 42 when he returns to the Crucible – match or even better the Scot’s record haul. “That’s a big ask, 17 days in Sheffield is a long time to survive,” he admitted. “There’s lots of good players about now but I’ll give it a go for sure.” For a player who has never been afraid of anything put before him on a snooker table, you would expect no less. A Sporting Life Story, with Ronnie O’Sullivan is on October 7 at Bramall Lane. For further information go to http://www.rm-events.co.uk or by calling 07717502480

The Ronnie Shows …

Ronnie was on “Victoria Derbyshire” show, and on “The One Show” yesterday and gave two very nice interviews. This, of course, is part of the promotional campaign for his book “Framed” but there was more to those interviews than just the book.

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Enjoy!

Some press made a big fuss about Ronnie’s admission that he had been in hospital with a breakdown after his first-round match in the World Championship 2016, yet it was nothing new. Indeed he had already mentioned this before the last World Championship as you can read here.

Ronnie on televison today … twice!

Ronnie will be on television today, talking about his book “Framed”

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Himself tweeted

I’m on this morning BBC1 talking about my book.

Only “Victoria Derbyshire” show is  on BBC2, not BBC1, at 9 am UK time (10 am CET)

He will be on BBC1 for “the One Show”, early evening, at 7pm UK time (8 pm CET)

This was Jason Francis tweeting yesterday evening:

Early start for me as ronnie is on and tomorrow talking framed! Looking forward to it

Another interview about “Framed” and snooker

This time found and pointed to me by AMT.

Thank you AMT!

You can listen to it here


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Ronnie was in really good spirit in this one!

Not sure I agree with him about the reasons why the class of 92 – himself, John Higgins and Mark Williams – lasted into their 40th whilst Steve Davis and Stephen Hendry didn’t. First because in many ways Steve DID last, he had a bad dip in form but then he came back and was still playing at a very high standard well into his 50th. Stephen Hendry’s “problem” was that he never wanted to adapt and change his playing style, and at a point his opponents had found the answer to his type of game. Ronnie on the contrary “reinvented” himself several times along his career. He always was and fundamentally remains an attacking flair player, but he can and is willing to play tactically when he needs to. He learned to compromise, Hendry never did.

A very, very nice interview with Ronnie

The snippet I published yesterday is part of a nearly 20 minutes interview with Ronnie on Radio 5. Many thanks to Silvry, who unearthed the whole interview and pointed it to me; here it is for you to listen to. Ronnie’s bit starts at about  2:10. The interview will remain available on the BBC Radio 5 site for another 29 days.

It’s great stuff, don’t miss it. Ronnie explains how he came about “Framed” and gives the listeners a very good insight on his perspective on life and his snooker.

 

Ahead of the paperback “Framed” launch …

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Ronnie will be in Bradford tonight, speaking about his life, and this event is part of the promotion around the launch of the paperback version of his first novel “Framed”.

In the same context, yesterday, he was at the BBC2 studio, for an interview, which is now available on the BBC2 site as a podcast. Many thanks to Silvry who was first on the ball and spotted it!

It’s a nice, down to earth interview, where Ronnie explains that, as weird as his childhood environment might have been, it was normality for him as a child.

Pictures shared on Facebook by Jason Francis: